並前往https://podcasts.apple.com/tw/podcast/%E9%8A%85%E6%9D%BF%E9%BB%A8%E5%9C%8B02-%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%BA%E9%86%92%E4%BE%86-%E6%97%85%E9%A4%A8%E8%AE%8A%E9%BB%A8%E7%94%A2-%E6%98%A5%E7%94%B0%E9%A4%A8-%E5%8D%83%E4%BB%A3%E4%B9%83%E5%AE%B6%E8%A2%AB%E8%BF%AB%E8%BD%89%E7%94%9F/id1551264982?i=1000574852784